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Welcome to Get Off My Lawn's "philosophy/rules" page.  Please acquaint yourself with everything here before even thinking you may want to apply to our guild.  Renora is the GM, and has several alts.  To give you the "gist" of things, he's old and plays WoW from his rocking chair...........yeah, we're THAT old.  Already re-thinking things?  You need not read further.  If that piqued your interest, enjoy reading and we'll see you in game!


If you do not make a new thread in the Applicants Forum you will NOT be considered as an Applicant.

GOML is a Guild of Old Farts having FUN.  In the World of Warcraft we are on Tanaris (PvE) server and we play the Horde Side.  We just started a new chapter in Age of Conan!  We are on the Dagoth PvE server.

We are a group of older gamers (25 years old (not level, real age!) or more) who got together with one purpose: To have a guild of mature folks, a relaxed atmosphere, helpful as well as nice to each other, and no "leet speak".  Yes, this means you MUST be 25 years old or older to even apply.

Yes we do endgame, no it isn't mandatory.
We do BG's, World PvP as well, again nothing mandatory.
We do "silly" things, raids on Alliance towns, and anything else you want to do.

Basically experience the game as you want with a good group of people who help each other and just have a great time.

I would recommend new applicants speak to someone on the following list for a short interview during which we may ask you embarassing things about yourself like your age or the first album you ever owned.

On World of Warcraft, look for:  Renora/Belfadin, Gummer/Snyps, Mikala/Mikey, Mirosa/Oopsyoudied, Balsa/Moogy, Notariety, Aulm, Rhyla, Odomak

On Age of Conan, look for:  Kreval or Eldiroth

A sense of humor is a must, I mean really, look at our name. We're all about being old and loving it. So be proud of your incontinence, memory loss, bifocals and curmudgeonly ways. Chase those dang kids off the lawn, pull your pants up to your armpits and drive 22 miles an hour to the local Old Tyme Country Buffet for a nice 4pm dinner of salisbury steak and bread pudding.

Thanks and have a great WoW/AoC experience!!!

PS: Keep these things in mind before applying, if they aren't "you", perhaps you should look elsewhere. :

1) We play to have fun, but not at the expense of others enjoyment. That means we don't feel slighted if another member chooses not to answer a request for help at that moment.  We never expect another member to drop whatever and come and help.  Self-reliance and patience are virtues.  If we can't solo a quest now, we come back for it later.  If we can't run a particular instance with guildies, we PUG it or wait until more guildies are available.  "If it isn't fun, don't do it!" is our motto, and we respect others being allowed to have the same motto.

2) We enjoy progressing our characters and enjoy seeing the progression of others' characters just as much.  If an item drops and we don't win the roll, we're happy for the winner.  Yeah, maybe we feel a tinge of disappointment, but we know that we can count on the winner (or another guildie) to help run that instance again to get that item.  We remember that pixels are not the true value of the game--it is friendship and camaraderie that mean more to us.

3) We not only tolerate a wide variety of people and playstyles, we thrive on it.  We appreciate that there are MANY different life-style choices out there and try to reflect that in guild chat (please read we WILL NOT TOLERATE any bigotry or homophobic remarks in guild chat).  We don't expect everyone to do the same things or place the same value on things in the game.  Different strokes for different folks, it's all good, variety is the spice of life, etc. etc. There are so many different ways to enjoy the game and we like to try them all.  Also, there is a profanity filter in-game, we recommend you use it if profanity bothers you.  With that being said, profanity is frowned upon GREATLY .  Why you ask?  As a wise person once told me and I continue to pass it on, "Profanity is the sign of a weak vocabulary", or worse..........of a weak mind.  Continued warnings of using profanity wantonly in /gchat will constitute removal from the Guild as it IS offensive to others.

4) We adhere to the Terms of Service.  So if Blizzard or Funcom doesn't allow it, neither do we.  This includes any form of botting or naming conventions that are against the TOS.  Thanks!!

5) One of the big challenges we have is trying to determine whether a given individual is a fit for our guild.  To ensure a good fit we look at many things including the following:

  • Depth of Application.  Successful applicants usually write anywhere between 8 - 10 sentences about themselves (e.g. two - three paragraphs).  Good applications also display a decent quality of the writing; in our experience the more qualified applications tend to use some semblance of correct English grammar (while we are by no means strict about this, we do appreciate an earnest effort) and appear to have put some time and effort into organizing a well written response.
  • Quality of Application.  A quality application addresses all the requirements that are spelled out in our application process.  For example, good applicants will mention their affinity for our guild philosophy and why they agree with it, attempt to remember their first album, etc...
  • Quality of Referral.  If the applicant is a friend of someone in the guild, the applicant mentions how they know such guild member.  Whether it is through a pick-up group (i.e. pug), a previous guild, or is a real life friend. 
In addition to ensuring a good personality fit, we use these criteria to also help us gauge the relative age of the applicant.  As you can imagine, doing such an age verification can be difficult in an on-line game, so we look to the application to see if it exhibits the qualities and characteristics of more mature players.  As such, we would appreciate it if you wouldn't mind posting a more detailed application.

GOML's official FAQ Sticky News  
Wednesday, November 01, 2006 8:09 PM - submitted by Renora    (0 Comments)

1) You guys don't raid?

We are not 'raiders' as in our goal is not to get to end game content. We experience end game content when we get enough people and feel like giving it a try. It is not our guild's main goal. We do Karazhan when we have the interest.  We do NOT recruit specifically for that. We're more about having fun and just experiencing the game the way we want. We'd like to have a balanced high level of all classes to make groups more feasible for regular instances but if we don't.........we don't.

2) Are there people on?

Yes and No. We are adults. And I know a lot of us work, so we're not on 24/7. I for one work a full time job then come home to spend a little time with the wife before I log in. So I am not on till maybe late in the evenings. I'm also west coast, which means I'm logging in around 7 my time, 10 server time. But there are a lot of east coasters. And we have others who are on during the day. But you never know. We're adults and we don't guarantee that we have free time. The main rule in our guild is Real life comes first.

3) Who's going to help me?

Depends on what you mean as help. Take my 70 to run your 20 something through Wailing caverns? Ain't going to happen. Need some help though from my 27 alt, or 21 mage? That's more likely to happen if I feel like jumping on them. We do not power level people. We do answer questions and try to be helpful. We do try to share recipes and what not in guild. We do give discounts to guild mates on various crafted items. We support and help each other, but we do not hand hold. This guild is for those that are interested in just having fun and taking care of themselves. We will help you, but we won't level you.

4) What's with the age thing?

It just cuts down on the nonsense we get in guild. Sure maturity has nothing to do with age. But then again, we aren't asking for maturity. We figure if you've got enough sense to get out in the world, get a job, etc. then you know how to deal with others and tend to have a lot less drama than just taking any joe schmo. We are selective in our interviewing and accepting process. If you gel and meet the requirements then we're more than welcome to take you on board.

5) What about the epic gear?

What about it? See what I said above about raiding. We have it, but it's not our top priority.

6) Do you pvp?

Yep. We have a lot of members who pvp frequently. They enjoy it. AV, AB, WSG you name it we probably got people doing it. Once again, it's not the exclusive thing we do but it is fun and we enjoy anything that is fun.

7) You a Teamspeak or Vent group?

Vent.

8) How do I get in?

Go over and apply at our forums. Then contact us for an interview so we can ask you some questions. At that point if leadership approves, you come on board.  We have a 30-day "get to know you" period where we figure out if we're "right" for each other or not before you become a full member.

9) What if you've got a bunch of my class already?

The thing about being relaxed is we don't care about class totals. If we end up with 30 warriors and 2 mages and 1 priest, so be it. We're out to have fun not try to hit end game. We aren't going to say no to someone because we've got 8 of their class already. Demonstrate that you're mature, self reliant, and fun, and you'll have no problem in our guild.

10) Can I be in your guild and have my alts in other guilds?

No. We ask that if you want to join us, you don't have other Horde characters in other Horde guilds on Tanaris. You may have 1 alt in our guild to start and after you become a full member you may have as many alts in the guild as you like. You can also have unguilded Horde alts (a lot of us like to try out different classes before we decide to play them significantly). As for the Alliance side, you can do whatever you like there--we don't have anything to do with the Alliance side other than killing them in the Battlegrounds.

11) How easy is it to get groups for quests and instances?

It depends on your willingness to put one together yourself. Officers and senior members are not responsible for putting together your instance run or inviting you to their runs. The best way to get a group is for you to make one. We always suggest that you start by whispering the classes that you need. Every 5-man needs a tank and a healer of some sort, so you need to have those in place. We don't expect that by just throwing it out in guild chat that everyone will come running. Sometimes it takes patience and effort to get a run going, but as mature players, we just do something else until we can get a run going.

12) Is there anything else I should know?

Just that we're a fun bunch of old players who like to have fun and do the best we can in game. We're not about being the first, but about having fun. End game will be there when we get to it. These walkers don't go that fast, but they make sure we get there in the end.

**Thanks to Drom for putting these together**

Guild Members Currently Online (2): Aulm-Tanaris : Kalibontu


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